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Feb 5, 2013 9:00pm PST
. boehner in these fiscal debates is his conviction that trillion deficits are sapping the country of its energy and prosperity. trillion deficits, his driving passion. everybody loves john boehner's passion. but this is supposedly what he feels so passionate about. this is a chart of the country's budget deficit levels every year. red bars are president bush's deficits from 2008 and 2009. blue bars are president obama's deficits. those really big bars are when the whole world economy crashed, including ours. remember that? you notice how the deficit gets smaller when the bars are blue over time? see how they're getting shorter as you go to the right? today the congressional budget office released their deficit projection for 2013. so for this upcoming year, the nonpartisan cbo. according to them under president obama the deficit is slated to continue to shrink, as it has been under president obama. but the supposedly gigantic growth of those deficits is why congressional republicans are committed to us lurching from self-imposed crisis to self-imposed crisis instead of us working this st
MSNBC
Feb 4, 2013 6:00am PST
deficit reduction. the president told super bowl fans reducing the deficit will require more taxes. >> can we combine some smart spending cuts because there's still some waste in government, can we reform our health care programs in particular and can we close loopholes and productions that folks who are well connected and have a lot of accountants can take advantage of. there's no doubt we need additional revenue coupled with smart spending reductions in order to bring down our deficit. >> president also warned congress about the danger of alowing the sequester to go into effect. >> washington cannot continually operate under a cloud of crisis. that freezes up consumers, gets businesses worried. we can't afford the self-inflicted wounds. >> no another tweet david plouffe said message delivered to big audience on balanced budget, deficit reduction, economy growth. on abc, an unlikely name was invoked for direction. >> i think what we need to do is do some things mitt romney taungd abo talked about. he said there are tax loopholes that should be closed. there are efforts being made
MSNBC
Feb 7, 2013 12:00am PST
two-thirds of deficit reduction has come from cuts to domestic programs, and it's not exactly fair. but now the house progressive caucus has come out with what they call the balancing act. it's a common-sense plan to reduce the deficit by closing tax loopholes and cutting wasteful defense spending. here is the chart of the plan. there is $1.7 trillion in new revenue. the $1.7 trillion in spending cuts is still there. this looks like a much fairer chart than the current system, don't you think? and it's estimated to reduce the deficit by $3.3 trillion. remember, we're trying to hit $4 trillion. so we're getting closer. the plan ends tax loopholes for yachts and for jets. it reduces the corporate meal and entertainment deduction to 25%. you can't write off the whole dinner anymore. it ends fossil fuel subsidies for oil companies that are raking in massive profits. exxonmobil, you know what their profit was? $44 billion in 2012. the last thing they need right now is your tax dollars as subsidy. the balancing act also closes other pointless loopholes the rich take advantage of. we shou
MSNBC
Feb 8, 2013 10:00pm PST
these defense cuts and deficit hawks, conservatives, tea partiers are putting moderate republicans in a bind saying this is cutting our deficit. let's go for it. >> the grand irony, of course, is the fact that the number -- if you poll people their number one issue is jobs, right? it continues to be jobs. and $120 billion austerity crunch, the numbers being bantered around, in exchange for the sequester, which is like $85 billion. whatever it is, right, that's a big chunk. that will have an effect, negative jobs effect, no question. >> it is going to have an effect, i agree with you, chris. here is what i think. i think it is a risk. there will probably be a small recession. we had a .1 decrease in gdp last time. this deficit is a real problem. this is where i depart from paul. who am i to depart from paul? a nobel laureate. >> we'll ask him. >> this is about the best deal we'll get out of the right-winged crazy people in the house. >> because it's balanced and -- >> it doesn't really touch -- there's no better deal progressives are going to get out of this other than going over the cli
MSNBC
Feb 7, 2013 7:00pm PST
we have handled deficits over the years. let's listen to this. >> at some point, washington has to deal with its spending problem. now, i've watched them kick this can down the road 22 years that i've been here. i've had enough of it. it's time to act. >> that is -- i'm trying to think of a word other than lie. kick the can down the road? we had a big tax increase in 1993 with president clinton along with big spending cuts. >> right. >> it was a deficit reduction package that worked. they continued to do more deficit reducing package with newt gingrich on the spending side throughout the decade and we're on our way to a surplus. >> that's right. i've been calling it the undecade, the 1990s has been written out of their record. they would have you believe that it was always the way it was under reagan and then bush. >> why don't they just say, leave off the clinton tax increase, which helped a lot, and just claim they did it for spending cuts? >> because if they do, if they admit that something nice happened in the '90s, they have to say, what happened after 2000. because by making
MSNBC
Feb 11, 2013 3:00am PST
remain focused on deficits, spending and how to head off the looming sequestration cuts poised to kick in early next month. in separate interviews on sunday, house minority leader nancy pelosi and majority leader eric cantor laid out the economic dividing lines. >> what we need is growth. we need growth with jobs. and if you have spending cuts, education of our children and other investments like the national institutes of health where you are hindering growth, you're not going to reduce the deficit. so it is almost a false argument to say we have a spending problem. we have a budget deficit problem that we have to address. we think the deficit and the national debt are at immoral levels. we think they must be reduced. we're sick and tired of paying interest on the national debt. and that's 15% -- that's a large percentage of the budget. >> the tax fight for the president means higher taxes, more revenue. again, we can't be raising taxes every three months in this town, david. and you know, the bottom line is we want tax reform, but we want to go plug thosepresident talks bring do
MSNBC
Feb 6, 2013 1:00pm PST
, deficits are decreasing. however, all i ever hear from republicans is the president needs to get serious. from speaker john boehner. that's the best impersonation i can give you. >> it's not bad. >> wasn't very good, nothing personal. >> but dana, is that it? >> well, that was a little raspy, your john boehner. but i think you've captured the sentiment, more or less correctly. and yes, the cbo report shows that the deficit is shrinking. but it is also showing the efforts to shrink the deficit have taken away from growth and the economy. you can't have one of these things without the other. now, i think there's a fallacy in the first question you posed to jared. that is that republicans would be very upset if there were a double-dip recession in a political sense as rush limbaugh and others have stated, they may be in a stronger position if the economy goes back into recession. then the president and his majority party will be less powerful. so they actually have a political incentive. >> hang on a second, dana. you're saying something that's troublingly close to the idea that the
MSNBC
Feb 8, 2013 7:00am PST
you need deficit spending to get it moving. republicans used to agree with that. even in 2007 and 2008, they were proposing different stimulus measures. they no longer agree with the idea that they get the economy moving in a rough time. so maybe you have to actually have some spending cuts go into effect and see the effect on the economy for them to recognize the fact that oh, yes, if we take this money out of the economy, the economy will go down. that's what happened last quarter. if you hit the pentagon and if you hit domestic spending there's no question that the economy will retreat. so maybe they actually have to see that happen and then there will be some type of political reckoning and a turnaround and we can talk rationally about how to get this economy going again and create jobs. >> of course the president insisted -- and he talked about this yesterday -- he thinks we have to stop lurching from crisis to crisis. >> we continue to have these self-inflicted crisis here in washington that suddenly leads everybody to tap the brakes. >> i guess the alternative, cheryl, is t
MSNBC
Feb 4, 2013 3:00am PST
it comes to tackling the nation's deficit, president obama said sunday in an interview with cbs news there needs to be revenue involved. and it sounds like he might be interested in going after people like mitt romney. >> there is no doubt we need additional revenue coupled with smart spending reductions in order to bring down our deficit. and we can do it in a gradual way so that it doesn't have a huge impact. and as i said, when you look at some of these deductions that certain folks are able to take advantage of, the average person can't take advantage of them. the average person doesn't have access to cayman island accounts. the average person doesn't have access to carried interest income where they end up paying a much lower rate on billions of dollars that they've earned. so we just want to make sure that the whole system is fair. >> all right. steve, help me out here. i think the democrats are holding a losing hand if they come back and ask for more taxes. they talk about raising tax rates on anybody. but if we're talking about closing loopholes, carried interest, sort of doi
MSNBC
Feb 8, 2013 3:00am PST
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MSNBC
Feb 4, 2013 3:00pm PST
fair. that it's transparent. that we're reducing our deficit in a way that doesn't hamper growth, reduce the kinds of strategies that we need in order to make sure that we're creating good jobs and a strong middle class. >> strong middle class. make sure the system is fair. it's game on for this president. joining me now is political strategist angela rye. thank you both for being with us. >> thank you, reverend al. >> jarret, let me go to you first. tax fairness is a big part of what the president wants to get done. take a look at this. there are many middle class households that are actually paying a higher tax rate than households that make over a million dollars a year because they don't get most of their money from investments. will the president's policies change this problem? >> they will and they already are, to some extent. but there's more to be done there, just like the president just said. in the deal that ended the fiscal cliff, the tax rate at least for folks at the very top of the income scale, above $450,000, on capital gains and dividends, capital gains is what y
MSNBC
Feb 5, 2013 3:00pm PST
balanced approach to deficit reduction as you described. one that asks the wealthiest americans to pay a bit more while making sure we reduce spending and make responsible spending cuts without cutting the legs out from under the economy. and i'm sure mr. bernstein would agree that as the economist i heard when i was a member of the budget committee repeatedly say that you can't cut so much so fast because in a recovery that is already more fragile than we'd like to see, you want to make sure you don't slow or stall that recovery. that's what the republicans are risking. it's really -- you know, i wish and i know that americans across the country wish that there would just be a massive outbreak of responsibility in the republican conference so that we could bring them to the table, sit down, and work together to avoid massive spending cuts which they seem willing to allow to happen. >> a massive outbreak of responsibility. wouldn't that be a great occurrence? let me ask you, jared. you may agree, but senator mitch mcconnell clearly doesn't seem to agree. let me show you what he said to
MSNBC
Feb 11, 2013 10:00pm PST
is not serious about deficit reduction, that he doesn't care about the deficit and wants to blow it up. on the other hand, he wants these draconian cuts and suddenly he is the king of austerity. the interesting thing is, they are the party that has been pushing, cutting the budget since the debt ceiling crisis. i mean, that is what this came out of. and now they want to turn around and place it on obama, but on the other hand they want to kind of convince us that they would ultimately go through the sequester if push came to shove. >> steve, that was very rude of jay carney to remind us of what, to use numbers like the factual record. >> we can see this week -- in 2011, it happened twice, actually -- first, there was this continuing resolution fight early in 2011. republicans were ready to shut down the government over spending cut demands. and the white house, what we now see there is a report out that jack liu found ways to make phantom cuts, to protect the poor, and republicans didn't really look into it and accepted it. and said now we got our spending cuts. you're saying now, t
MSNBC
Feb 5, 2013 3:00am PST
. >> interesting, even the paul ryan budget i agree had more detail than other things. most like the deficit in the ryan budget was we will save unbelievable amounts of money by turning medicaid over to the states and somehow they will figure it out. >> that's more information than other people are putting out. >> talk about missing deadlines, now this is a really low bar. >> what is the democratic plan in the senate, let's say, or in the white house, to save medicar medicare? >> medicare actually - actually -- interesting you focus on that. medicare has been a pretty good story the past few years. my view is double down on things happening. medicare grew only by 3% last fiscal year, unbelievable low by standards. >> will you take that gamble >> for the next five years, i will take a 50/50 bet medicare will continue to grow at much slower rates than historically. >> down to 2 1/2, 3% the next couple years. >> that will tick up a little bit as the economy picks back up but i don't think we'll see the 10% growth rate. >> so you don't think medicare is a problem? >> it is a problem but this is
MSNBC
Feb 10, 2013 12:00pm PST
. we're going to hear about perhaps some children in the debate of the deficit crisis. a spokesman for john boehner telling "the huffington post," "we can't keep chasing ever-higher washington spending with ever-higher taxes because it diminishes our children and grandchildren's future." does bringing children into the issue at all change the debate? >> well, i mean, state of the unions end up being about a vision, right? where do you want to take the country over the next year and then some. and in particular, i think for the president, it's his second term. at the end of the day, this is about where he wants to leave the country once he leaves office. emphasizing the economy, jobs, is obviously smart because that's the issue that matters most for the country, but it's also smart because that's where i think most people realize we still have work to do. we've done an enormous amount of recovery over the last four years, in particular where we'd been, but obviously, there's more work to be done. the question is, how do you do it? i think that's where i think the president's going to re
MSNBC
Feb 5, 2013 8:00pm PST
issues like education and health care and spend less time talking about the deficit. >> really? oh, yes. eric cantor to the rescue. he is ready to save the republican image and put a stop to the electoral college losses, right? of course, this is not the first time eric cantor has tried to save the party. you see, it actually is the fourth attempt that he has had. in 2009, cantor held a pizza party, remember that? with jeb bush and mitt romney by launching the national council for a new america that didn't work. a year later, cantor was back at it. he was one of the young guns ready to take the republican party by storm. >> there is a better way, and a new team is ready to bring america back. eric cantor, kevin mccarthy, paul ryan joined by common-sense conservative candidates from across the country. together, they are ready to make history. together they are the young guns. >> the good old days. in 2011, cantor launched the you cut program. he wanted to get the public to vote on weekly cuts to federal government. another year, another failure. so today cantor launched the "making
MSNBC
Feb 5, 2013 11:00pm PST
practical. i think for republicans they can't be the party of bob dole caring only about the deficit. they have to care about practical -- the reason you're so upset is you know it was a good speech. >> he went over to the aei, the number one war center, this is totally neocon. your thoughts. this is hopeless. i thought he'd admit the truth here today. >> it was a bit jarring to hear some of that coming from eric cantor who has been a warrior. >> hasn't he been the guy standing behind boehner's back waiting to trip him over because he's been too moderate? >> no question. he's been standing off center stage waiting for his opportunity to become speaker. i thought that there was a lot of practicality in the speech but i didn't think there were really big ideas. i think -- >> it was like sundries and notions in a drugstore. little items, like telling colleges they got to tell people what employment prospects there are for english majors. what's that about? cantor -- let's take a look. he took a approach that the university education should be more like a vocational school, a tech school
MSNBC
Feb 11, 2013 9:00am PST
of congressional debate over deficit reduction and the sequester, president obama will call for more public spending offset by savings and new revenue. the president's decision to shift focus back to the economy isn't surprising when you take a look at public polling. the economy, jobs, and the budget deficit are at the top of the list for budget concerns. legal immigration and strengthening gun laws ranks 17th and 18th respectively. the new strategy may reflect a decision to strike while republicans are on their heels and plagued by internal conflict. for the third year in a row, the gop will not present a unified front in their response to the state of the union. in 2011 when the republican party chose paul ryan to give its official response, the tea party issued its own rebuttal. >> instead of cutting, we saw an unprecedented explosion of government spending and debt. it was unlike anything we've ever seen before in the history of the country. >> last year a gop response by mitch daniels had competition from the herminator. >> in a word i heard the speech, and it came across as a
MSNBC
Feb 10, 2013 11:00pm PST
the president. we ought to be making sure we manage down the debt and deficit. he doesn't share the commitment with us on that. so, ok, we're going to keep at it on that. but at the same time, you've got so many millions of americans who feel that they have become an afterthought. my purpose in saying this is we have conservative principles that actually can work for their life again. and that's what we're going to be about promoting. >> before you go, i want to ask you about the debate over drones. it's a key part of the president's national security policy. why hasn't congress passed any additional legislation to review drone policy, to really understand where there ought to be checks and balances in the time that's passed since the original authorization post-9/11 that gave the president the authority to have a kill list, as the president works off of, for drones? >> you know, i'm glad to hear that the administration has released the memo that is under discussion to our intelligence committees in both the house and the senate. we're going to be about oversight and getting into ex
MSNBC
Feb 11, 2013 10:00am PST
the growing end of the church and how do you address this faith deficit in the historic way of catholicism, the western world, is going to be high on the agenda, it would seem to me, of the cardinals meeting in conclave and in the informal conversations which let's not forget began about six hours ago that will precede the formal meetings before the conclave is closed. >> you've touched on something that ann thompson, you know very well, that there is a sight of this that is political. not in the grungy sense of the word, but in the larnler sense that there are factions, correct, and as you have been covering this in the past with john paul ii and the asinges of benedict xvi, you have a feel for how that work as well. >> well, i think the thing -- the thing for people to understand here, andrea, is that there is a clear difference between what some of the people in the pews want and what the leadership believes in. you know, there's a lot of speculation today. would the new pope consider married priests or women priests or gay marriage or sexual reproduction -- reproductive fre
MSNBC
Feb 8, 2013 2:30am PST
immigration, guns, and tackling the federal deficit. president was looking to rally house democrats at their annual retreat saying he wanted a long-term budget deal but new revenues must be part of the package. >> i am prepared, eager and anxious to do a big deal, a big package, that ends this governance by crisis where every two weeks or every two months or every six months we are threatening this hardline recovery -- >> the president also discussed a looming automatic budget cuts arguing the public favors his plan for a balanced solution. >>> turning to the topic of guns. the president will continue his push to stop gun violence as the first lady pays tribute to the latest victim. michelle obama is headed to chicago this weekend to attend the funeral of 15-year-old what day yeah pendleton. the honors student was shot last week in a chicago park just days after performing at inauguration students in d.c. pendleton was among 40 people gunned down in chicago last month, making january its deadliest month in over a deck. >> the white house confirms senior adviser valerie jarrett and e
MSNBC
Feb 11, 2013 7:00am PST
more on every single issue -- the deficit, health care, gun policy, foreign policy, does he have the upper hand? >> i think that the people are looking for results. they're not seeing it now. we have young people graduating from college who -- and the president talks a lot about education. they could find jobs -- i think this is about his tenth time that he's quote pivoting to the economy, and to jobs, but this is like a broken record. he says it, and then goes off to other things. the inaugural address was about climate change, immigration, gun control, gale rights. he ignored the major issue on the minds of the american people, which is jobs and the economy. >> you're not suggesting you think he's going to do that tomorrow? >> i'm hoping he does. i'll have an editorial calling for him to focus on jobs, things he can do to get back to work, but not more borrowing from china and spending. the government doesn't do a very good job of doing that effectively or efficiently. we need people back to work in this country and the president continues to take his eye off that ball and focusing
MSNBC
Feb 9, 2013 11:00am PST
republicans can still get together on a balanced solution to the deficit crisis. republican senator mitch mcconnell says that he know that sequestration would have consequences, but he blames president obama for not putting forward an acceptable plan to prevent it. for more on that, jonathan strong, staff writer, role call, alexander burns and national political reporter with politico. good afternoon to both of you. >> hello. >> outgoing defense secretary leon panetta warned that the $85 billion in cuts would curtail american naval operations by a full third and could force furloughs of as many as 800,000 civilian workers. take a listen to what he said. >> it is difficult to believe, frankly, that congress would simply stand aside. stand aside, fail to make the decisions necessary to resolve this crisis and allow the defense economy, equality of life of america to be irreparably damaged. >> how damaging would these cuts be to our national security? >> it's a great question. the impact is going to be fairly dramatic to some of the employees, civilian employees of the pentagon and some othe
MSNBC
Feb 11, 2013 11:00am PST
dealing with the deficit? that sounds logical as a pattern for the speech because they're the hot topics. >> when you're president you can't just deal with one issue and the economy is the top priority for most americans. the president will i think rightly address the issue and talk about the issue of gun violence, definitely talk about climate issue and the issue of immigration and he'll ask congress to do something. this is not the previous congress was not a very active congress and this congress doesn't appear to be shaping up to be much better and the president attempt to in the future act by executive order and make decisions in that way if congress is not willing to do anything and step up to the plate and i think that molly made an excellent point, too, about the messenger and the message of the republicans divided about because the real issue for the gop is not just the message. they can't agree on the messenger, the reason why rubio and paul both giving responses to the president's state of the union address. >> we have seen that and you can have as senator manchin said
MSNBC
Feb 8, 2013 2:00pm PST
was medicare part d a ballooning deficit, and a financial crisis that devastated the country, a failed war, a war in iraq that was ill-advised to put it mildly, and now the cuckoo's nest who he cultivated as the ground troops, they think they're in charge and they're not going to listen to him saying they're not. >> what was the big thing with karl rove? did he start a war to celebrate the tax cut or have a tax cut to celebrate the war. i mean, he put it all together. i forgot to mention the prescription drug thing thrown in without financing it. >> right, right, right. and, you know, he did do a great job, you know, mobilizing and energizing the right wing base to get behind george w. bush, and then he and others did a great job in the last few years under barack obama of energizing them by demonizing barack obama and pushing them to the fringe. and now he comes along and says, wait a second, you've gone too far. this monster that i have helped to create has gone too far and i'm picking up the pitchfork and i got my fire, my torches, and i'm going to go door to door backed by b
MSNBC
Feb 7, 2013 8:00pm PST
in a deficit-neutral way so that we will lower tax rates and eliminate these loopholes. to my mind just this one piece of legislation, which i think is a sensible piece of legislation, support i believe by the vast majority of the people in this country, could bring in all by itself close to $600 billion in a ten-year period. the choice as americans that we face, do you cut programs that the middle class and working people desperately need or do you ask finally large corporations who have gotten away with murder for years to start paying their fair share? >> even if we weren't looking at cuts at the big three, this is still terribly wrong. there's still no fairness in this game whatsoever. and they have lobbyists have gamed this all the way to the floor of the senate. and there's no question that it needs to be changed. and if this election was about change and if it's about fairness for the middle class, i would expect every progressive group and every democrat and the president to get on board big-time on this. senator sanders -- >> you're absolutely right. i would only add that
MSNBC
Feb 11, 2013 1:00pm PST
leading issues such as the deficit, guns, or health care. the white house has certainly gotten the message on jobs and isn't waiting until tomorrow night to start getting its message out before the inevitable republican attacks start raining down. take a listen. >> you will hear in the president's state of the union an outline from him for his plan to create jobs and grow the middle class. the middle class is the engine that drives this country forward and which will, if it is given the right tools and the right opportunities, will drive us forward in the 21st century. >> let's get to our guest, democratic strategist bob shrum, and karen finney. the president is expected to use the speech as a way to frame the debate over the so-called sequester which would mean $85 billion in cuts that republicans claim are entirely his fault. take a listen to this. >> you know, the president, he's the one who proposed the sequester in the first place. >> it's what president obama proposed in 2011. >> it is inevitable quite frankly. now these cuts are coming by law and it's law the president signe
MSNBC
Feb 4, 2013 8:00pm PST
beltway, the media keeps pushing the president on debt and deficits. i'd like to know also, i don't you think of the fundamental issues confronting this country, but on the gun issue, why wasn't there a single question about the 15-year-old chicago girl, hadiya pendleton, who marched in the parade in the inauguration and was gunned down, the 42nd victim of gun violence in chicago in january? that might be relevant to the issue of how do you stop trafficking of illegal weapons and relevant to the actual policy debates under way in this country. >> richard, why does inside the beltway media have a propensity to just focus on things that people don't care about? >> look, i've been part of that press corps. i was there actually at the time in the run-up to the war in iraq, and, by the way, there were people asking those questions, but as a pack, as a pack mentality, this is a game. look, the war in iraq was serious. don't get me wrong. but we're talking about kids in america who were killed and how to respond to that. and so, you know, the disjoint between this photo, what the president doe
MSNBC
Feb 6, 2013 12:00pm PST
. that's what this is about. our deficit has been coming down and the patient approach is to recognize that we actually have time. we should bring the deficit down, but we have time. we should take the cuts off the table and think about how to get the economy going. if people work again, we are on the road to solving the problem. >> to that point and looking at the cuts you have been pointing out to head start and cuts to wic, the women, infant and children nutritional assistant program, they are penny wise and foolish and may be making things worse in the long run. >> i'm glad you raised that, crystal. if you think about the single mom working 12 hours a day and her paycheck does not take her to the end of the month on food. what she realizes and has been a responsible mom, but realizes after she makes the decision to have her child not have an abortion is that her paycheck is not going to help her feed her infant. the women infant children program not only feeds these families, it also teaches them about nutrition and how to be healther and live healthier lives. this is important for fami
MSNBC
Feb 5, 2013 10:00am PST
inevitability for the reasons you outlined, that everybody can have hands off and watch the deficit go down by what they built into this system, what was intended to be the ultimate stick because they had not been able to resolve longer term solutions to the budget, so these sweeping cuts would help to kind of reset the order and put the country on a path to saving some money. you have republicans now, and fiscal conservatives, particularly, who say that if the sequester does happen, it will be a way to force the country into recognizing the need for further cuts. as some of the measures go into effect, that would create another time of urgency to get to the table and talk about this. the president and senate democrats will talk about additional tax revenue which they thought was settled as a way to put this forward. what is happening where senate democrats are having a retreat, meeting behind closed doors, looking at how long could they delay the sequester, how much time could they buy themselves, and how would they pay pour it? would there be cuts elsewhere or new revenue, some ki
MSNBC
Feb 10, 2013 5:00am PST
scheduled to take effect in march unless congress can agree on a broader deficit reduction package. president obama says if congress fails to agree on such a package as seems likely he wants to delay the cuts to give lawmakers even more time to hand route a deal. >> if congress can't act immediately on a bigger package, if they can't get a bigger package done by the time the sequester is scheduled to go into effect, then i believe that they should at least pass a smaller package of spending cuts and tax reforms that would delay the economically damaging effecting on f the sequester for a few more months until congress finds a way to replace these cuts with a smarter solution. >> on the same day the president spoke, the congressional budget office confirmed what a vast body of empirical evidence has already told us. austerity has been a considerabn economic growth. quote, gdp will grow slowly in 2013 because of fiscal tightening. without that it would probably improve by 1.5%. economic output will remain lower until 2017 making a full decade of lost economic growth from a financial
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Feb 11, 2013 2:30am PST
court for the use of drones abroad. >>> back at home, members of congress remain focused on deficit spending and the sequestration spending that will take place next month. pelosi and cantore laid out the economic divide line. >> what we need is growth. we need growth with jobs, and if you have spending cuts, the education of our children and other investments, like the national institutes of health, where you are hindering growth, you're not going to reduce the did he have silt. it is almost a false argument to say we have a spending problem. we have a budget deficit problem that we have to address. we think the deficit and the national debt are at immoral levels. we think they must be reduced. we're sick and tired of paying interest on a national debt and that 15% is a large percentage of the national budget. >> bottom line, you could live with the sequester if it happens? >> i don't wa want to live with the sequester. they do not make sense and we're going to hurt a lot of people and it's up to the president really to act now. the tax fight for the president means higher taxes, m
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Feb 6, 2013 2:30am PST
reforms that protect our national defense. we believe there is a better way to reduce the deficit but americans do not support sacrificing real spending cuts for more tax hikes." >>> efforts by the white house to head off spending cuts come as a new government report predicts the budget deficit will drop below $1 trillion for the first time during obama's presidency. the congressional budget office which assumes that the cuts will go into effect march 1st says the government will run a deficit of $845 billion this year. that's compared to $1.1 trillion short fall. the outlook predicts the improvements will not last. it warns that an aging population will drive up retirement spending and rising interest rates will put the debt at unsustainable level it's current laws remain in place, debt by 2023 will equal 77% of gross domestic product. that is roughly double the 39% average seen over the past 40 years. >>> coming off the republicans' bruising defeat, eric cantor is looking to rebrand his party n a speech at a d.c. think tank, he moved away from his combative tone expressing a need to
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Feb 12, 2013 11:00am PST
manufacturing, energy, education, national security and the deficit. real achievable plans that will lead to new jobs. >> top republicans including senator mcconnell already critical of the speech. >> i strongly suspect the white house will subject us to yet another campaign blitz. frankly, i could write the scripts myself and will be told the president's hands are tied by the sequester he proposed, signed and refuses to get rid of. >> we learned the president will make a major announcement of afghanistan announcing that 34,000 u.s. troops will return home from the region exactly one year from today. that's about half the troops there now. joining us now, maryland congressman chris van hollen, ranking member of the house budget committee. thank you for joining us. >> great to be with you, tamron. >> first, what are the expectations for the president tonight? >> well, i think as you said the president's going to lay out his plan for xik growth, for job creation but focusing on the fact it is not good enough just to have economic growth for the folks already at the very top. that we need br
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Feb 6, 2013 3:00am PST
. >> and more, exactly. >>> other news. a new government report predicts the budget deficit will drop below $1 trillion for the first time during obama's presidency. the congressional budget office which assumes that federal spending cuts will go into effect march 1st says the government will run a deficit of $845 billion this year compared to last year's $1.1 trillion shortfall. but the cbo's ten-year outlook predicts those improvements will not last. it warns that an aging population will drive up entitlement spending and rising interest rates will put the debt at unsustainable levels. if current laws remain in place, debt by 2023 only ten years from now will equal 77% of gdp. that's roughly double the 39% average seen over the past 40 years. >>> and president obama is asking lawmakers to take quick action as a march 1st deadline approaches that will trigger deep spending cuts. "the new york times" writes this morning that "mr. obama, who missed a deadline this week to submit his annual budget to congress, acknowledged on tuesday that a broader deficit agreement is unlikely to
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Feb 12, 2013 3:00am PST
this deficit in check or otherwise you won't be able to do any programs you want to expand. >> he did that. >> you put honest democra democrats -- honest democrats in the white house -- >> because republicans were elected two years later. >> honest democrats in the white house on capitol hill will say we are drawing these lines in the sand because we have to and we're willing to compromise. the question is will republicans be willing to compromise to make a deal that involves democrats taking on some of their own constituencies, i think the president will talk about that. >> let me ask you, what do republicans talk about tonight so they don't look like bob newhart's two cousins in vermont. larry and my brother larry? >> >> daryl and my brother daryl. >> bobby jindal, you put him responding to the president, talk about the greatest home-field advantage and he ends up looking like kenneth the page. >> i don't think rubio will look like that or sound like that. i think he will obviously, it will be a play on immigration. it will be hopefully an economic response to the president. to
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Feb 6, 2013 5:00pm PST
make cost-cutting measures. i mean, they've been running in the deficit for quite a while. >> you know, those folks look like just hard-working knowledgeable americans that care about the country. but they're so wrong. it's not about e-mails and it's not about ecommerce. it's about the republican party destroying the middle class in this country. and i wonder how many of those folks right there who don't rely on the post office, how they're going to feel when their netflix deliveries are delayed. what? they're not here for saturday night family movies? that's right. people definitely take the post office for granted. most everything americans know about the post office is absolutely wrong. they haven't paid attention to the story. and into the mainstream media, here we go. this morning, the "washington post" is telling people that the post office suffered tens of billions of dollars in losses in recent years with the advent of the internet and ecommerce. really? plenty of other media outlets. well, they are taking their information directly from the republican talking points on th
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Feb 8, 2013 11:00am PST
economist paul krugman on this. any time talking about deficits, we are buying in to the right wing mantra somehow deficits are killing the economy. look at great britain and doing with their austerity plans and doesn't add up. i'm much more of the mind to be proactively looking at infrastructure investment like many of the business advisers told president obama should happen. people from commerce, from industry. i get it. that won't happen as long as house republicans are dead set against it. and what we're left with is unfortunately in my view a detente to put the discussion in the frame the republicans want. what about deficits? we have a jobs crisis in this country. not a deficit crisis. to me, the whole conversation has been pushed to the right further than it should be. >> and karen, on a last note, in anticipation of the president's speech, the white house released numbers on the people affected by the cuts. i believe around 600,000, between 600,000 and 800,000 suffering as a result of cuts to food stamps and other program that is people need to survive these days and at leas
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Feb 12, 2013 6:00am PST
learned that i'm in the minority in thinking we have shrinking deficits and that's good news. we need to worry about jobs. >> you are right in the minority. >> do you have something fun? i could get a lot of hits, but my colleague said don't watch the state of the union. >> the numbers don't lie. the american people want something done and hopefully tonight that will begin. >> very good and you know what, the republicans final word. don't deny science. democra democrats, don't deny math. "morning joe," a happy cheerful morning at all times. stick around. here's chuck. >> the state of the union is 12 hours away. they are putting final touches on the speech that can feel clintonian, a laundry yes of priorities. strengthening the economy and add jobs. responding for the republicans is marco rubio. this will surely be the biggest audience he has had. that's mostly republican w. what message puts him on a path to give his own state of the union some day. >> north korea confirms they conducted a third nuclear test. president obama called it highly provocative and condemns the move. you will he
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Feb 6, 2013 8:00am PST
we're going. the 2013 deficit standing at $845 billion. last year it was $1.1 trillion. so obviously we're going in the right direction. but they do give a grim fast if there is a type of austerity measure that is in place while the economy remains very fragile. >> well, that's right. there are two things we have to work on at the same time. the most important thing is to make sure that we continue to see an economic recovery, that we do what we can to accelerate that recovery, put more people back to work. and the sequester would undercut that effort, because if you take that much money out of the economy very rapidly in this across-the-board way, it will result in lost jobs, which is why we proposed this alternative. now over the longer term, there's no doubt we have to reduce our deficit, but we have to do it in a smart and balanced way as the president has said, and that's why we have proposed a combination of cuts and we've already done $1.5 trillion in cuts as part of the budget control act and other action. we did some revenue as part of the most recent agreement on the fiscal
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